This community describes what actually the Ahmadis are. They say that they are Muslims and write that "There is only one God and Muhammad (SAW) is the Prophet of Allah" but they dont say that Muhammad (SAW) is the last prophet of Allah. Which is a bsic requisite of being a Muslim. According the Pakistan Law they are non-believers. Please go to the sites below for information
the text above is what i am used to seeing all over the place. It doesnt even bother me any longer, not because I think there is any truth to the matter but because I have come to terms with the fact that there are always going to be morons in the world, and whats more; theyare going to be in a far greater abundance than even marginally sensible people.
Whats more; when they are writing stuff and inviting people to join in with them, its their extraordinary sense of self importance yet nothingness that just annoys me like anything. Look at the above italicized statement for example, I wouldnt even bother to go into hardcore theological issues because there is no need to; the statement can be proved absurd anyway. This gentleman is telling the world why ahmadis should not be considered muslims; and his reason is that they accept the Kalima, they do say Allah is the only one worthy of worship and that Muhammad SAW is his prophet; but they dont say that Muhammad is the last prophet.. now just imagine the magnitude of self importance of this person and the likes of him; they think THEY ARE THE ONES to decide what counts as being muslim. God and his prophet are content with the fact that if someone believes in the kalima, he or she is muslim enough for us…oh holddd on..not for these guys! they are there to introduce a NEW clause to the term Muslim.
I am ashamed; that our government actually is composed of numskulls and was composed of numskulls; the calibres of whom have never been reached. Back in 1974 as well, they did spend the much-needed-elsewhere national revenue on composing a clause that would serve as making a set of people stand out as non muslims and would later on give rise to a sectarian violence never seen before in pakistan. Whats worse is that all these leaders of the nation failed to comprehend what their beliefs themselves were and followed the advice and decisions of Mullahs, quiet a few of them are completely uneducated, and even if they are; they havent gained a shred of Knowledge at least. (Amusingly; the only person in Pakistan who becomes a molvi or mullah, is the one who cannot do anything else i.e. he cannot be a doctor, he isnt smart enough to be an engineer; hence mom and dad send him to a madrissa where he begs his way through his life; getting fundamentalist views hard coded in his brain and every last shred of tolerance and common sense out of him. At this stage he is ready to be a completely full fledged molvi, the one our nation turns to for religious advice)
Anyway back to the original point; so first of all somehow miraculously they all have decided that a new clause is necessary for being a muslim,a clause which neither Allah nor his prophet SAW thought was necessary or they did not have enough insight to introduce it at that point (Nauz Billah) but which these magnificient scholars have suddenly figured out. Secondly; since kindergarten we have been made to rote what is called Iman-e-Mufassil (Detailed-Faith) and Iman-e-Mujammil (Concised-Faith?) which are basically summations of what a muslim's faith is.
Now the Iman's statements from a sunni website (of course) — http://www.mahdavia.info/chiragdeen/islamicCommands.htm
Iman-e-Mujmil
I have faith in Allah as He is known by His Names and attributes
and I accept all His commands.
Iman-e-Mufassil
I have faith in Allah and His Angels, His Books and His Messengers, and the Day of
Judgement and that all good and evil and fate is from Almighty Allah and it is sure that
there will be resurrection after death **.
Now maybe I am blind or need better glasses, but I cannot see where is the 'last prophet' cause stated anywhere here? Out of the blue –they have however decided that it is indeed a clause for being a Muslim.
on the other hand, what I do see is the statement that I believe in ALL of Allah's messengers or nabis; now the problem becomes that IF Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is indeed a Nabi, it is everyone who denies him being one who becomes kafir or well at least rejects his Iman-e-Mufassil or his detailed faith. To declare someone non muslim based on a dispute or what a word Khatam-un-Nabeeyeean or Seal of Prophets implies is one idiotic endeavour. Whats worse is that (call me biased if you would) but sensibly speaking I think that a seal serves as an identification for a document or whatever it is the seal is sealing, and not for the purpose of closing something i.e. its intention isnt to close something–just like seal of kings used to be for identification purposes and not for the purpose of closing anything.
The sheer stupidity of this all, almost amounting to being terribly annoying.
